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23 Sep 2020 23:35:37
Just seen on Youtube from Boxing Ade that the lawsuit from Canelo got thrown out of the courts.
If he really fights Yildirim I'll be disappointed.

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20 Sep 2020 09:36:32
The WBC has announced the creation of the WBC Middle East boxing council and has named Amir Khan as its president. God help us all.

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20 Sep 2020 16:42:43
HAHA! So has Khan retired from fighting now?

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21 Sep 2020 10:09:50
Not sure mate.

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14 Sep 2020 20:31:01
November 21st for Whyte vs Povetkin II. Seems very quick to me.

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17 Sep 2020 11:43:14
Agree mate it's too soon. February next year would have been best in my opinion, his mandatory slot in February is gone (even if he wins his rematch), so I don't understand the need to rush back. Maybe he's just very eager to put it right - aside from shoring up defensively and not leaning forward, he hasn't got to change much.
Then again, perhaps it's Eddie pushing it for November to help pick up financially again.

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17 Sep 2020 15:52:36
It's far too soon imo mate. I don't know if Whyte thinks he can still get that Feb date if he beats Povetkin or if he just wants revenge. I think he wants and likes being talked about as a big player in the heavyweight division and his ego is damaged. Wants to fix that asap.
No matter when he takes it it's going to be a tough fight, although after a heavy knockout like that I would have to make Povetkin favourite this time round.

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18 Sep 2020 02:44:37
Hopefully Whyte gets ko'd again, so we can get on with some real fights for the undisputed title.

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10 Sep 2020 22:10:49
Really gutted to hear of Alan Minter's untimely passing.
He was a bit of a hero to us when we were kids. I remember after he won the world title a few of us went down the barbers for Alan Minter crew cuts.
We came out looking like we'd gone five rounds with Marvin Hagler but that's another story.
RIP Alan Minter, a British boxing great.

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11 Sep 2020 13:44:37
Sad news, RIP.

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09 Sep 2020 18:59:41
Like you said the other day Roro, Canelo is causing problems for Golden Boy and DAZN and has filed a lawsuit. He apparently wants the $280m they owe him.

This is going to get tastey, let's see how long it takes for 'leaked' information about Canelo's alleged steroid program to come about.

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11 Sep 2020 13:53:15
It's a mess mate. Canelo is blaming Golden Boy and Golden Boy is blaming DAZN. If Canelo gets his way I think it will be the end of Golden Boy, can't see a tv network sticking with them. Oscar seems to have lost the plot altogether. It's sad really when u see this happen, like what's happening in Belfast atm between Frampton and Mcguigan.
Both are blaming each other and a lot of stuff is coming out in that court room. I was told by a taxi driver about 10 years ago that this would end up this way he called Barry Mcguigan Barry Mcgreedy. Then my mates brother (they r a big boxing family) told me about 5 years ago that he knew for a fact that Frampton hadn't been paid for his last two fights. Sad that its ended this way.

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12 Sep 2020 06:30:25
I know what you mean about Oscar losing the plot. Teddy Atlas said someone needs to get him a dog and Dana White just simply replied "cocaine is expensive", when asked about his apparent come back. Dana is an absolute savage lol.

I've heard rumblings about that with Frampton too.

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16 Sep 2020 14:05:51
GGG is now in limbo himself. He signed a six fight deal with DAZN thinking he was getting the third Canelo fight and was reading there that they are trying to cut his money for future fights as they can't deliver the big names.
This legal battle they r having atm with Canelo could just be the start of a lot of problems for DAZN. Whatever happens here I think it's the end of Oscar and GBP.

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17 Sep 2020 11:47:46
Along with Oscar, I think the end of Frank Warren is also coming soon mate, he's only got Fury who brings in the big money, Dubois and Yarde might do eventually but that may be too late.

If Warren ruins negotiations with Hearn for undisputed, I can see Fury walking away from him and joining Hearn on a 2 fight deal with an optional 3rd fight (all vs Joshua) . That would more or less put the nail in the coffin for Warren.

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17 Sep 2020 15:44:00
I know Fury walked away from Warren when the Klitschko fight couldn't be made but personally I don't see Warren being a stumbling block in the Fury vs AJ fight. The money between the fighters is agreed and Warren will fancy his man to get the win.
Warren has a great relationship with BT sports and partnership with ITV boxing which I think will continue to make him attractive to young fighters as he has the platform to showcase them on terrestrial tv.

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18 Sep 2020 02:52:10
Warren is 100% behind Fury v AJ, rumours of a trilogy never mind a two fight deal, one in London, one in Manchester, and one in Saudi Arabia is the whisper.

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08 Sep 2020 13:53:05
Dillian Whyte why do you say these things?
Hes said that he wasnt sparked out against Povetkin and that he was trying to get up at the count of 7 then he jumped up and was fine. Is he having a laugh? What count? The ref waved it off when Dillian was mid flight. He was on the ground for about 2 mins after the knockdown and needed oxygen. What is he talking about?
I was liking Whytw there for awhile and was cheering him on but its statements like this that make me hope he gets flattened again. Guy is delusional.

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08 Sep 2020 21:16:51
To be fair he did recover pretty quickly, but he was out cold for sure. I wouldn't call him delusional though, he hasn't come up with any conspiracies or excuses and he acknowledged that Povetkin caught him with a good punch.
I think the only delusional one in all of this is Johnny 'it was a lucky punch' Nelson, what an idiot he's turning out to be.

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09 Sep 2020 13:58:24
What count is he talking about mate? The ref didn't give a count. Whyte was put in the recovery position and attended to by doctors. I think whyte is trying to compare it to the Fury knockdown against Wilder, saying he was up at 7 but the ref wouldn't let him continue. I watched it again last night just incase I missed something but Whyte's account of what happened, didn't happen.

Sky sports have been doing my head in for ages now. Their coverage of boxing and football have really went down hill imo. The bias from their presenters and commentators is ridiculous. The likes of Bellew, Smith, Macklin and Nelson are really bad for it.

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09 Sep 2020 18:55:57
As you say mate, he's probably trying to compare it to the Fury one, but like I've said before that fight would have been stopped in England for sure.

I don't think Whyte would have been up at 9 or anything, he was moving shortly after the ref waved it off and was sat up by around the count of 8 (if there was a count) but he'd never have got up and continued to fight, his eyes were still rolling in his head.

I think the last time Sky's commentary wasn't entirely bias (although still very bias) was Joshua vs Klitschko, and that's because Klitschko is a legend and has a good relationship with Sky from previous fights. I usually end up watching the fight without the sound the second time around.

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03 Sep 2020 11:43:06
Was reading about the numbers some boxing shows done over the summer there. The Dubois 'fight' at the weekend there peaked at 400 thousand viewers and according to Eddie Hearn the Whyte vs Povetkin fight done 30% more buys than Whyte vs Rivas so that would mean it done 375 thousand buys. They are really good numbers and shows that boxing in the UK is strong with viewers atm even if they r feeling the lose of a live gate.
The same can't be said for America and especially Golden Boy and DAZN, who have backed themselves into a corner with their Canelo deal. 35mil Canelo is guaranteed a fight and he has to fight a premier opponent one a year. Only problem is that DAZN don't class Saunders or Smith as premier opponents and didn't class Kovalev or Jaccobs premier opponents last year either. Both the Jaccobs and Kovalev fights pulled in less than 200 thousand buys.
The problem really for DAZN is that they agreed to pay canelo 35mil a fight thinking they would the GGG fight but that hasn't happened, and with no live gate Canelo and Golden boy who share the profits from the live gate will not push for that fight. The live gate for the 2nd GGG fight was over 23million dollars.
This is going to end in tears because DAZN are refusing to pay the 35 million canelo thinks he's entitled to, offering half for him to face Smith. Then you have Canelon and Golden boy who will not fight the bigger names without a live gate.
Boxing needs fans back asap, its I'm serious trouble. Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren are planning on doing one ppv event each the remainder of the year, which will both make money as they r popular fighters and fights, but the rest of the cards r all losing money and in America fans r turning to the more competitive UFC to watch. The big fighters need to understand what's going on here. If 17.5 million dollars is not enough to get you in the ring then maybe you don't deserve to be boxer.

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04 Sep 2020 14:04:44
It most certainly needs to evolve. There are clear issues with the sport and it's being run by dinosaurs.

Here is an idea off the top of my head how the top end of Boxing could work.

1). Convert all of the sanctioning bodies into leagues.
2). Each league has 10 unique boxers, you can not compete in different leagues or weight classes at the same time.
3). The league phase will last for 3 years with a mandatory 3 fights per year.
4). Once the league phase is completed, the highest ranked fighter from each league will face off in a tournament phase for the undisputed world title. This will last one year.
5). The bottom 2 from each league will be placed into a play-off style contest with non-league fighters that wish to enter into said league (I need to think about how to do the set up for non-league boxing) .
6). During the tournament year, non-play-off and non-champion fighters are given the chance to move up or down in weight, as well as move to another division.
7). All fighter must stay within 10lbs of their fight weight at all times during the league phase and tournament phases. Failure to do so will result in a forfeit of 40% of fight purse, repeat offenders will be expelled from the league for the remainder of the league and replaced.

Fight Rules
Aside from the standard boxing rules, I would propose shortening the round time to 2 minutes as well as dropping the number of rounds to either 7, 9 or 11. This would encourage more attack based fighting styles, which in turn increases entertainment value.

As I don't do numbers very well, I'm not sure whether this would be viable or not financially. But I think it's a decent start.

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05 Sep 2020 19:18:47
I agree with the concept and thinking behind it mate, the best fighting the best and more entertaining matchups, although I think would have to keep in mind the integrity of the sport. The art of boxing is about hitting without being hit, and if the rounds were reduced and the time was reduced then all the advantage would go to the more aggressive fighter. Rounds would also be very difficult to judge and we would get a lot of contrasting scorecards.
The 10lb weight limit, is that in between fights aswel? Surely if they make the weight at the weigh in then that's enough?
I like the concept though of fighters being relegated and promoted, sort of reminds me of the super 6 tournaments which were great.
I think the tv companies and different promoters have to start working together and start taking more risks. I don't know if it's the tv company or promoter or the fighter themselves but they seem to want to be protected these days and not take a risk. Maybe trying to protect that zero. I think they have to start enforcing the mandatory a lot more and get rid of that super franchise champion, that's a load of rubbish. I also think their should be some sort of concrete limit around fight pursues. Something like, a challenger for the title can not be offered less than 30% of the purse and for a champion vs champion fight the lowest one fighter can get is 45%. I think this would help make the negotiations run better.
I also wouldn't mind seeing a overall governing body for boxing, someone that has no alliance to any promoter, organisation or tv company. Someone who has the final say on matters and put the pressure on for big fights to be made. Boxing is certainly under pressure atm especially in the states from the UFC. Maybe it is time for a shake up.

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08 Sep 2020 08:18:35
I agree, it would be very difficult to judge, perhaps there needs to be a definitive way of scoring fights, that doesn't involve a personal opinion. For example you could score the fight based on statistics, these would have to be extremely detailed though.

The 10 lbs weight limit would be to stop weight bullying. An example of this is Canelo vs Khan. They fought at 155 lbs and both weighed in at 155 on the dot. However, after rehydration Canelo walked into the fight at a much higher weight, some claimed he was 180 lbs. I'm not a fan of Khan as is well documented on here, but that is utterly disgusting.

The SuperSix and the World Boxing Super Series were excellent tournaments that had very good fights, historically they've been key to unifying belts too. Something that needs to happen more often in my opinion, too many fighters protect their status as world champion, by having voluntary defenses against nobodies. In all honesty I think they should remove all 'voluntary' defenses, they just allow for padded records.

A good example of this is Kell Brook. He goes to Shawn Porters back yard and wins comfortably, he then ends up fighting fairly obscure fighters that he's expected to beat, because he's busy chasing the ghost of Amir Khan. He then ruins his career by going up to middleweight to fight Golovkin and then straight back down to fight Spence.
Were people ducking him? Possibly, but he should have done more to get those fights.

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08 Sep 2020 13:47:37
Khan fighting Canelo was his excuse not to fight Brook. I used to like Brook but he has done my head in over the years talking about Khan and chasing that fight. Even still today Khan dangles that carrot in front of him but will never thake that fight, his pride will not let him risk a defeat to brook.
100% agree about Brook, he had his chance to go out and fight the other champions like Garcia, Thurman and Vargas but he chased the money and ruined his career.

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08 Sep 2020 21:12:12
The thing is, I believe he'd have probably beaten all of them, so he could have been the undisputed or at least unified. But instead he fights Kevin Bizier and Ionut Dan Ion.
Khan is just a mess.

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29 Aug 2020 20:11:37
Watching fury wilder II. there's definitely something up with wilder. I'm not talking about the costume rubbish, I'd say it's the extra weight gain he had. First fight he was 15 stone 2 pounds second fight 16 stone 7.
I'm not for one minute trying to find an excuse here but I'm trying to figure out why was Wilder blowing out his arse after 2 rounds. I'm not a wilder fan but he was terrible that night and was still on his feet at the end.

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30 Aug 2020 09:31:14
Honestly? I don't think the weight played a part, not that early in the fight. Wilder weighed in at 231 lbs, he's fought quite a few fights at 225+ lbs when he fought Duhaupas he weighed in at 229 lbs and went 11 rounds fairly comfortably. He went 9 with Molina and Szpilka at 229 lbs to.

Personally I think it was anxiety which started it, then Fury exaserbated things for him by being 271 lbs and leaning all over him, refusing to let Wilder even breathe at some points (meaning pressure) and landing some very nasty body shots on him.

It's like Fury said tonight in the interview, if he doesn't land that massive punch, he can't win.

By the way that mismatch for Dubois was a disgrace, Frank should have had a better back up than that, what a joke.

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30 Aug 2020 19:10:11
Maybe your right mate but I'm just thinking are we going overboard with Furys performance a little? He had a man in front of him who was dead on his feet at the end of the second round and he was still on his feet at the end of the 7th. Would he have lasted that long against 90% of the names on that boxrec list? I don't think he would have.

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03 Sep 2020 07:41:42
At first I would say I hyped it up as I believe we all did, now not so much. I just think it's because the way Fury just went for him, that people were a bit surprised (myself included) .

But looking back at it, it just showed the massive amount of flaws that Wilder has. I think it also makes you wonder what would have happened to him, had the fights with Povetkin, a younger Ortiz and Joshua not all mysteriously failed to materialise. The Povetkin one is very strange, resulting in Povetkin winning a lawsuit over loss of earnings lol.

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29 Aug 2020 10:19:09
Was just browsing BoxRec and took a look at their all time list for heavyweights. There are some interesting inclusions. Here is the top 25.

1). Joe Louis
2). Muhammed Ali
3). Rocky Marciano
4). Wladimir Klitschko
5). Sonny Liston
6). Lennox Lewis
7). Gene Tunney
8). Riddick Bowe
9). Mike Tyson
10). Jimmy Bivins
11). Evander Holyfield
12). Vitali Klitschko
13). Joe Frazier
14). Tyson Fury
15). Larry Holmes
16). Floyd Patterson
17). Ingemar Johansson
18). Jersey Joe Walcott
19). Bob Pastor
20). Alexander Povetkin
21). George Foreman
22). Nikolai Valuev
23). Anthony Joshua
24). Deontay Wilder
25). Melio Bettina

Some interesting names in there. I'm surprised that Larry Holmes and Floyd Patterson are as low as they are personally. Also quite surprised that Valuev and Wilder made it in there.

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29 Aug 2020 11:03:01
They use some confusing rating formula to make them lists mate, there is no subjective thought that goes into them. Personally I wouldn't have 5 or 6 names in there myself.

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29 Aug 2020 13:50:31
Yeah they use an ELO formula which actually makes sense for the most part.

In theory the ELO system benefits those that take harder fights against higher ranked opposition, where as the guys with the padded records will not be benefitted.

I say in theory because some how they've managed to put Wilder above Joshua in the current top ten. Even though Wilder has a massively padded record.

I agree that there are some names in there that don't make sense. Valuev, Wilder, Joshua, Fury and Bowe don't really deserve their inclusion personally.

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23 Aug 2020 13:30:58
Hopefully that ends all the talk of Whyte being a credible contender for a shot at Fury, no wonder Fury is laughing.

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23 Aug 2020 14:08:54
I don't see why people are revelling in Whyte's loss. We as fans are the ones who miss out, as Fury vs Whyte would have been a very entertaining fight, with an epic build up.

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23 Aug 2020 15:49:46
It wouldn't have went anymore than two rounds, it's always good to see another one of Hearn's bubbles bursting, roll on Fury schooling AJ in less than 7 rounds.

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23 Aug 2020 19:07:38
2 rounds. Are you high?! Fury doesn't have the same kind of power as Povetkin or Joshua, he won't flatline him. He may well end up stopping Whyte, but I don't see how anyone can say 2 rounds.

Grow up and stop being such a fanboy.

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23 Aug 2020 21:29:58
I was being a bit kind on Whyte, one round, first flurry of punches Fury lands on him, you must have missed the weight gain and extra punching power of Fury in his demolition of Wilder.

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