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14 Oct 2024 23:48:51
guys what's your thoughts on ben whittaker?
a lot of people on social media basically saying he quit and was found out.

i don't really know what to make of that, but from what I saw, I think cameron was well winning and should have got the decision IMO.

yet again, more dodgy judging lol

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15 Oct 2024 09:01:21
Thought at the time that he was looking a way out of there. The replays didn't show his ankle twisting or hitting anything but u never really know, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but only if he rematches Cameron next.

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13 Oct 2024 01:23:34
Not only was it a robbery, but that disgusting war criminal Ramzam Kadyrov was there in the ring with Beterbiev.

I am not watching Boxing again until the Saudi's are gone. They are taking money from Russia, so screw them.

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13 Oct 2024 11:42:43
Him from Czechia? I thought I recognised him.

I had Bivol a point up going into the last round and tbh I forgot to score the last round so I either had it a draw or Bivol by 2.

Thought Bivol was excellent.

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13 Oct 2024 15:49:42
Yes, the Chechen warlord.

Mate, I am absolutely furious over this as I follow the conflict in Ukraine very closely (I have friends fighting) . That fat disgusting mass of atoms should be on trial for war crimes.

This is as polite as I can be about Kadyrov.

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14 Oct 2024 17:00:00
Fair enough mate.

Was the main fight sanctioned by the BBBofC?

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13 Oct 2024 00:55:55
what do you guys make of that result?
personally I had it as a draw.


no way was it 116-112 IMO




also hope frazer clarke recovers well. the way he looked after that was scary.
wishing him a speedy recovery

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13 Oct 2024 11:46:47
Think a draw would have been fair.

Agree I hope big Fraz is OK, that was rough. Thought Victor Loughlin should have called break when Fraz fell into the ropes, give Wardley abit of a free shot.

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08 Oct 2024 19:52:57
Bivol v Beterbiev has to be the best fight in boxing atm. I can't pick a winner. Genuine 50/50 imo.

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10 Oct 2024 06:12:48
If Bivol is sharp with his movement he'll win comfortably, Beterbiev is 39/40, has had a lot of lengthy injury spells and his last injury was a knee injury, which very well could have an effect.

However we have seen Bivol be more static in recent fights, perhaps due to him lacking respect for his recent opponents, but if he doesn't move in this fight, he's getting chinned.

I'm going to pick Bivol only points, with the caveat that Beterbiev may be "stopped" due to injury.

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11 Oct 2024 09:51:44
Start of the week I was leaning more towards Bivol on points for the reasons u say mate although then I got thinking about Beterbiev facing the better opposition. Tbh both at times have looked excellent then on other times they have looked ordinary, so couldn't split them. Hope it's a cracker.

Looking forward to Clarke v Wardley II, but don't think it will be as good as the first one.

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27 Sep 2024 19:45:14
What's everyone's opinion on the Saudi involvement in Boxing?

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28 Sep 2024 10:13:48
At the start I wasn't too keen, I thought the shows were amateurish and lacked atmosphere but over the last year or so they have been amazing. Some still might point to a lack of atmosphere but the production level and quality of the cards have been brilliant.

I do think but why the Saudis are doing this? They aren't doing this to make a profit, is it just one rich man's love of the sport? Or is there other reasons behind it? Some might point to the playing of the Saudi national anthem and say that is there reason but I'm not sure.

Looking at the positives, they have held some fabulous cards and finally the fans are getting a lot of the fights we wanted. They have brought Matchroom and Queensbury together which can only be good for the sport going forward. They have brought more good attention to the sport imo.

On the negatives, there seems to be no structure to this. It just seems it is the route that Turki Alalshikh
Wants to see. Cause I have no real idea on why the Saudis are involved I don't know how long they plan to be involved. What happens to the sport if they decide to put their doe into another sport, what happens to boxing? Also heard a lot of rumours about Turki Alalshikh having health problems, hopefully the mam is ok but he seems to be driving force behind the doe so if true how much longer will this continue?

Boxing at the moment is in a see saw position, could be up one month and down the next. Be interesting to see how this pans out.

More worrying is the Olympic situation for the LA games in 2028. I read the World boxing are taking steps towards securing the future of boxing in the games but let's hope they can convince the IOC by next year cause boxing not being an Olympic sport would be disastrous for the sport.

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28 Sep 2024 20:57:43
From what I was reading, a lot of the Middle Eastern countries are trying to create an economy that isn't oil based. Dubai went for international tourism, Saudi Arabia seems to be going for global sports.

The Saudi's have quite a few different sports which they are openly trying to take over. Boxing is most definitely one of them, Pool is another and I think they are/were trying to make Saudi Arabia the big league, though I'm not sure how that is going to be honest lol.

Maybe Ed002 would have a little bit of information? I know the focus is on Football but you seem to be well versed in economics so I figured it's worth asking.

My main concern is that the current model is completely unsustainable. They are throwing loads of money at this and it's not making the same profits.

Matchroom and Queensberry have essentially become vassal promotional companies for the Rihyad Season cards and I suspect that once Joshua retires or it's clear he's no longer a big draw, Eddie will 'sell' Matchroom to Turki and likely become an ambassador to Rihyad Season or something.

Frank will likely do the same, but at a later date.

I suspect Turki's main goal is to create a UFC style system but with his own personal touch. A system where he selects the fights, controls all the finances and is lauded as a hero for 'saving Boxing'.

While I most certainly am hopeful of change in Boxing, I'm not necessarily sure Turki is the right man to take it forward.

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29 Sep 2024 10:57:18
Thinking purely on boxing I think I would be OK with Turki taking over, he seems to listen to what the fans want and creates it.
Look at the show last week, 6 bouts quick turn around between bouts and main event starting before 10pm. Compare that to a Top rank show where we get 10 fights, 2 episodes of 24/7 between each fight and whole show lasts 8 hours.
We all know the sanctioning bodies r a joke anyway so I'd be OK with Turki taking over if the last year is to go by.

My worry is when Turki or Saudi have had enough what happens to the sport after? Also worrying is stories of journalists being blacklisted from events if they bad mouth Turki or the show.

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05 Oct 2024 05:21:17
Yeah I'm not sure Turki will get bored as I think there his involvement is some how tied to their nations economic policy, so I imagine as long as it's successful he (and whoever succeeds him eventually) will stick around long term.

That's under the assumption I'm on the right lines with my theory.

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22 Sep 2024 11:25:58
Dubois was outstanding. His jab was so quick and powerful, he hurt Joshua everytime he landed. I would like to see Joshua walk away now, he's had a good career and don't want to see him become a punch bag.

On a side note, Liam Gallagher hasn't a note in his head. My God he was he was terrible.

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22 Sep 2024 12:56:42
as I said in my post, I think if fury loses to usyk him and AJ will have a mega money fight
or the other possibility could be wilder for AJ lol


one thing I am seeing now which I don't like is a lot of people are still talking more about how AJ, showed courage etc, yes he did but all the talk should be about a brilliant and dominant display by dubois.
i also don;t understand how AJ has rematch clause being the challenger


oh and agree with you on liam gallagher, sounded really bad.

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22 Sep 2024 13:07:47
It's thought that Joshua will active the rematch clause. It was a one-sided fight but Joshua only has himself to blame, moving backwards in a linear fashion with hands low, not keeping the left hand up when throwing the right. So much that he could fix for the rematch.

Plus just before he got KO'd he had Dubois in trouble after landing a massive right hand.

I think the rematch if it happens will be interesting.

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22 Sep 2024 13:30:39
Yeah there are some fights that could be made for him like u say Wilder or maybe even the Whyte rematch but personally I would like to see him walk away.

Joshua is just massive star that he naturally will gather a lot of attention even after a defeat but I agree with you mate all the praise should go to Dubois.

Also don't like the idea of a rematch clause or why Joshua walked to the ring second as the challenger, I assume Dubois would have had to agree to these demands and was compensated for them.

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22 Sep 2024 13:42:04
The way Dubois attacks at times reminds me of a young Mike Tyson, now hear me out lol.

Not saying he has the same defence or skill, technique or footwork as Tyson but just the way Dubois jabs his way into range then let's the hooks go in combinations reminds me abit of Tyson.

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23 Sep 2024 22:20:55
I'd say more like Holyfield than Tyson, though he has much heavier hands than both to be honest.

He also has some pretty bad habits that Holyfield had too, like hitting low and headbutting. There are a couple of instances in the Joshua fight, but credit to Joshua he doesn't cry about it and just gets on with it.

I don't think it would have changed the outcome of the fight, I'm not trying to cope over AJ losing or anything. I've just never been a fan of that kind of Boxing. Unless it's against people who deserve it, like Miller. Lol.

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24 Sep 2024 22:12:24
Agree I can see the similarities with Holyfield.

Aye, Miller and Benn. Lol

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22 Sep 2024 02:18:15
big congratulations to dubois, dominant display.


i honestly think now, all that's left for AJ now is a mega money prize fight, and that's most likely to be fury, ( if he loses to usyk again)
or even wilder, which I have no interest in whatsoever


Turki Alalshikh looked like he had the hump post fight, didn't look happy at all.

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23 Sep 2024 22:24:04
Honestly Turki is slowly finding out the hard way that 'plans' in Boxing rarely ever come to full fruition. He really should have known this as his first Saudi show was Ruiz vs Joshua II, a fight where Joshua had suffered a shock defeat in the first outing.

I like his ambition but he's a brainlet when it comes to understanding how the sport works.

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21 Sep 2024 22:31:09
Wow what a fight. Joshua showed some guts. Dubois was outstanding. What a KO.

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21 Sep 2024 22:29:14
Damn son, Dubois messed him up.

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21 Sep 2024 20:19:28
Interesting cards in the Buatsi fight.

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